Pornography or porticos: the class divide
THERE’S a definite class war element to this row about MPs’ expenses. While it’s quite clear that each and every one of them is on the fiddle, I just find it heartening that the Tory fiddles have a touch of class that the Labour fiddles can’t match.
The Labour cheats claim for TV porno channels, disposable nappies, bath plugs and Kit Kats. The Tory blaggers go for portico erection, swimming pool maintenance, moat clearing and tennis court repairs.
You have to say, if you’re going to get your collar felt for thieving from the public purse, it might as well be for having your chandeliers hung (Sir Michael Spicer, Conservative, Worcestershire West), rather than for buying two Scotch eggs and a packet of mini pork pies (Derek Wyatt, Labour, Sittingbourne and Sheppey).
Meanwhile the real winners in this affair, UKIP and the BNP, rub their hands and look forward to next month’s Euro elections. And that, my friends, is where the real damage has been done. This isn’t just about snouts in the trough; it’s about a complete collapse of confidence in Parliament, and the subsequent meltdown of the mainstream parties.
Extremism is about to rule. The sad thing is, they haven’t even had to kick down the door. It’s been left off the latch for them.
posted by BarryBeelzebub @ 10:28 AM
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I'd like to think that some of the more blatantly greedy, cheating bastard MPs might receive prison sentences for their thieving. Fingers crossed!
Meanwhile, their Euro MP counterparts can easily and LEGALLY pocket over £1 million from their expenses during a 5-year stint at the European Parliament :-
http://www.taxpayersalliance.com/files/meppay-1.pdf
Sorry! Shite link. Now corrected :-
Taxpayers Alliance Report
Baz, please not you too! Everyone keeps harping on about the BNP and the advance of fascism. If everyone could read up on Mussolini and his ideals and open their eyes to what is going on here they would realise we are already a fascist nation. Even the (traditionally censorship happy and slightly statist) Australian mainstream press has recently branded the UK as evolving into the first modern totalitarian state.
We have fascism already. A truly deplorable government obsessed with statism and control by any means (except for the political classes). A totally screwed economy that will leave many 'citizens' in penury for generations to come. The UK has had it and I really don't see how the BNP or even Genghis Khan himself could be any worse.
All this waffle about the BNP (and indeed MP's expenses - a drop in the wider ocean) is diverting from the important issues, namely the true state of ruin of this country and what the hell can be done to try to repair the damage.
Why not instead put pressure on other politicians to commit to sorting this out? Perhaps if they came up with a sensible manifesto putting the UK and its interests first and LISTENED TO THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE things might improve.
Sorry - needed to get that off my chest.
It strikes me as strange and ironic that THREE illegal wars, and Joe Public hardly bats an eyelid. But once the MPs are caught with their sticky fingers in the till, utter outrage. Death and billions of pounds down the drain, in exchange for cheaper heroin and more expensive fuel, and nothing. Hardly a mutter of dissent. But as soon as reality kicks in, the the stupid population realise that Politicians are all bent (wake up: they've always been bent), and tiny minded, self righteous middle class twats find someone who is having it easier than them, (which to their tiny minds is everyone, right?), then it all goes pear shaped.
Yes, this is an increasingly Fascist state- but by the will of the people. They WANT dictatorial, authoritarian government. They want lying MPs. They even want the BBC etc to lie, too, to suit their prejudices.
The BNP and UKIP are just extreme Tories. They're no kind of answer, because a move away from Europe constitutes a move towards that other bastion of common sense, good economics, peaceloving and pseudo Fascist state: America. The last thing we need is more American culture, political or otherwise.
And it's bad enough being clobbered by the state, but clobbering British citizens because of the colour of their skin? What bloody good will that do? How will that fix anything?
Talk about being caught between a rock and a hardplace - Europe and North America! I think I'll move to Iceland.
Without the Findus crispy pancakes.
Doomed! Doomed! We're all doomed I tell 'e!
Or are we? Surely, in a totalitarian state, the Telegraph would have been shut down by now and the editor would have met with a fatal 'accident'?
Never vote for anyone who went to a public school, attended Oxford or Cambridge universities, has been in the military or police force, is a member of a gentlemens' club, is a Freemason or is suspected of being one, has a title, has letters after their name, has a double-barrelled surname......and so on.
I have never doubted the integrity of our MPs. None of them have any.
And now we're watching as the bastards carry out a model exercise in damage limitation and scapegoatism. The speaker has stepped down: but what the hell does that tell us? MPs have been fiddling their expenses for decades, through the tenure of several speakers, although it became practically obligatory under Thatcher and Major, who allowed that kind of thing as a tacit pay rise, seeing at a real, up front, pay rise would have the public up in arms.
This is comical. MPs are as good as saying, "Resign, speaker: it's YOUR fault WE'RE on the fiddle. It's your fault for letting us".
Dennis Healey said that politicians are like bananas: they start out green, turn yellow, and are invariably bent.
And dumbarse Cameron is calling for an election, like his crew didn't have their fingers in the till.
oh err Findus Crispy Pancakes
Chicken and ham in cheese sauce. Yuck!
Is it me or is it a time warp, the GB limited is in the poo again!
(Warning UK PLC is a Euro term, shorty to be flushed down the u tube of history, along with all the vast crap that the "sprouts" came up with, now that the EU is bankrupt)
Bring back the food of Empire - Fray Bentos Steak and Kidney puff pastry pie. (Dont mention the Malvinas)
Perhaps I have been watching to much ashes to ashes.
Well this series is about corruption in low places
Say no more
Lots of supercilious criticism there, Black Dog of everyone but yourself. And of course Thathcer had to get a mention. Easy enough in retrospect but you have no ideas.
In Tesco's while buying some honey, an MP came over all funny.
He fell on the floor and started to roar "oh my God I've spent my own money"
Lots of supercilious criticism there, Black Dog of everyone but yourself. And of course Thathcer had to get a mention. Easy enough in retrospect but you have no ideas.I have lots of ideas, matey. One them involves punching middle class pansy crutchpieces like you, who can neither comment in any depth nor have ideas of their own. I mentioned Major too, and it's pretty fucking obvious that I hate this lot just as much. Where's your ideas, knob end?
And for your information, I have never voted. I always spoil my papers. I don't want to encourage the bastards.
Stupid stays stupid: pills won't help.
Anyone slightly more intelligent than a half wit can see that the whole lot is rotten from the arse up, and has been for a long time. Vote for your Tories, pretend it's 1979 again, but don't be surprised when bugger all changes. They're as bent as the rest. Changing government now would be like asking someone if they'd sooner be shot or hung: not much of a choice, is it?
What we need is proper (i.e not pansyfied, ciabatta munching, latte dribbling, rocket salad nibbling little Englanders) people to protest- properly. Civil disobedience. Start with your MP. Once the bastard thinks he/she is going to lose his job, he/she will soon liven up.
Shut up, you boring "crutchpiece".
Here's a thought, why not pay MP's about £150-£200k, no allowance, no expenses that's it. Then reduce the number significantly, why does a city like Leeds need ~7 MP's, (none of them do anything for the City anyway), it could make do with 1 or possibly 2. We should also ban Scottish MP's from being ministers and taking any kind of decision making over the bulk of the nation. In fact if we are to remain in the EU we don't really need a full parliament anyway, all our lot do is gold plate what Brussels sends out anyway so why not cut down to a flip of a coin.....
anyway rant over
Only thick bastards who can't post more than 1 line think others are boring. DUH. Having the attention span of a retarded goldfish is not cool or any excuse. Keep banging the rocks together you slope.
Bollocks, crutchpiece.
The moron can't even think up his own insults, Black Dog. Go and play on Twitter, bellend, where one line answers are all thats expected
Shhh, pissflap.
If you boys can't play nicely, I shall have to start deleting ...
I was amused to read that there was concern over the mental state of some MP's and they may commit suicide. Hmm - I asked the question - how many of their own constituents have already gone down that path due to their incompetence. I also made mention of the fact that MP's cannot claim funeral expences. Mind you I wish they could.
Not Happy
Don't worry about that. They've employed a counsellor - at our expense, of course.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1184656/Now-MPs-psychiatrist-deal-stress-expenses-furore.html
Nothing extreme about wanting to stop the EU from stealing our democracy Baz. Extreme is when we have to take it back by force because we sat by and let it happen.
Sorry Baz, didn't mean to offend anyone, it's just that other poster is such a lipsmackin' thirstquenchin' acetastin'motivatin'goodbuzzin'cooltalkinhighwalkinfastlivinevergivincoolfizzin - crutchpiece !
Bazza, where are you?
Suffering from withdrawal symptoms.
Don't hurry back Baz, most of your recent posts have been utter shite1
Hear hear! Why don't you just retire gracefully Bazza, before the ointment waers off?
If you don't like what Barry writes, you're always free to not read it.
..............which is EXACTLY what I shall do - no doubt along with thousands of other 'old hands'.
He's probably done the decent thing and started to write for the Guardian (until the meds wear off that is).
BTW, you can read his pointless spittle on Ceefax page 318 on channel 4.
It always amazes me, that people would come to Bazza's site, read his blog, read the comments and then say it's "shite" or "I wont be reading anymore". If you don't like it, why would you spend your time reading it and then replying to it??
F off and stop wasting your time and everyone elses.
Cupid Stunts.
Haw Daftie, nobody is reading it, all they are doing is posting that it's shite.
I wonder whos feathers Barry has ruffled, what with all these anonymong window lickers posting how they hate what they are reading.
Here's a suggestion boys ( and possibly girls )
Why don't you go and fiddle with your, now redundant, expenses sheets and leave us alone?
Here Here!
Bazza is opinionated, and about the only thing are allowed to have in this country now is an opionion! But atleast he puts his name to his comments, unlike all the 'anonymous' inbreds above!
Yes, even inbreds have the right to hold an opinion, but tell it to your wife/Sister/mother and leave the rest of us in peace.
Bazza, 16th May?? Are you alive? I am beginning to shake!
Bazza's blog getting more comments when he doesn't post?
Never mind Baz, I've been reading your stuff since the Bristol Post days (who designed that website? It was a pain in the arse to navigate to your column) and I'll continue reading when you you pick up pen again.
All you literary critics, foul-penned pundits, anonymous nutters and latter-day Bazza "fans" are missing the point - and it's this: Bazza's column USED to be really terrific. It was ALWAYS edgy, political,controversial,scurrilous,wacky,off the wall,satirical, delightfully politically incorrect-and nearly always absolutely right on the money. Those of us like me, who have been following him from as far back as 2001 and earlier used to wait expectantly for his latest blast. Nearly always there were at least three stories within each post, followed by a "postscript" disclaimer. There was usually a reference to his man Whittaker and/or Mrs Beelzebub.
Sadly, somehow Bazza has lost his vigour, his sparkle and the sledgehammer wit, and this seemed to coincide with the loss of his job on the York Press a few weeks ago. The columns since have been really pathetic, poorly written and unamusing - not just in my opinion, but many others too. In fac the decline seems to go back to the column of March 28th this year. Will he return to his former self? Will he ever retrun at all, more to the point? It would be good to know - a lot of people seem quite disappointed!
lol Baz
B.liar remains the tedious little moaner we all remember him.
You wouldn't be the same Kris who's usually wittering on about Roy Keane, the state of the public toilets in Stoke Newington and so on would you? I seem to recall that you are a great supporter of The Met and "served" in some minor capacity at some point? Do tell.
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